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  Prince Debuts Cover of Christian Rock Ballad 'What If' - This should be an instant disfellowshipping event

  by paulmolark in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://www.etonline.com/news/161150_prince_new_single_what_if/.

  so prince sings a christian rock ballad with another young christian woman.

  he has engaged in:.

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  Guys honestly......who here really thought there was any danger of Prince.......PRINCE.....becoming a model JW.
  

  BTW his album just last year was fantastic.
  
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  Is Reporting Child Abuse Mandatory?

  by berrygerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  was reading the comments section of the guardian story about candace conti.. an apologist or two were defending the inaction of elders - comparing it to attorney/client privilege.. commonwealth countries do not have the same blanket coverage that is appealed to by wts.. when searching whether or not reporting is mandatory in canada, came across this site:.

  http://cwrp.ca/faqs#q5 .

  do i need to report child abuse and neglect?.

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  Attorney client privilege?
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  Just woke up

  by Doctor Who in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  new to the site.

  currently i am a ministerial servant and was told i was appointed to be an elder.

  i told the brothers i was not ready for that assignment.

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  Welcome Dr Who.
  

  Crisis of conscience is a good start. I always am leery of waking up by the actions of a few local idiots. There are plenty of good people in there too. the main thing is that the same could be said for every faith. there are moderates, and those that are extreme.

  The difference is of course within this faith, the extreme views are held publicly....by the GB. So they are mainline views, that many just choose to ignore.

  Continue to allow yourself to see things for how they really are (not how you have been trained to view them), and you will be surprised. or maybe not.
  
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  Make A Wish Trip to JW.ORG

  by konceptual99 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a sick little girl goes to ny to meet caleb and sophia for her make a wish trip.. http://www.kmph.com/category/170789/video-landing-page?clipid=11142038&autostart=true.

  i don't want to make too much comment as there is an innocent and poorly young girl at the heart of this but i do have to wonder what the purpose of the parents courting the media's attention over this really was..

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  They keep on trying to have a normal conversation with them.....and those two continue to resist.

  When they say, what did you get to do in New York......they just defer back to the studio for JWdotorg.

  The guy on the far left seems like he knows the family.

  ....or is that just me.
  
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  New Caleb video uses fearmongering on children

  by Jonathan Drake in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  check it out.

  literally the message is if you don't pay attention at the meetings you could die.

  how insane, i feel like this must wake some people up..

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  I love how Noah playing a video game is linked to his fictitious drowning and is made to be comical.

  Paying attention can save your life too!

  The brilliance is the ease at which you manipulate people to be so cavalier with statements of life and death.  they just roll off the tongue.
  
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  Which of these activities bothered you the most?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  which of these activities did you hate/bothered you the most?

  rank them from 1-5 with the most hated to the least.. .

  field service.

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  Here is my order.

  
  

  
  

  
  

  Watching young children getting disfellowshipped  

  Field Service

  2 - 4 day assemblies

  Watching 12 years getting baptized (I was 12)

  Giving Ministry School Talk - for men and women
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  The best reasonable, rational, intelligent discussion on religion I've ever seen

  by TerryWalstrom in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl6e4emx-4k

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  I may have missed something along the lines of my current comments point in my review of the previous ones.....so apologies if it has already been touched on.

  Christians (and JW's), have completely divorced themselves from the Old Testament.  Somehow, even within Christian circles, stoning and rape of young girls is not something they would say is "ok". Yet the people of God in this book engaged in these practices, and it seemed to be sanctioned by God.

  But now.....Christians do not do that.  Something Jesus did or said or whatever, rendered those actions now as something of the past, not to be done anymore.

  Someone that doesn't understand Christian culture, could read the bible and think christians believe in all of those things, not knowing the nuances.  Is this possibly a mistake people are making with Islam and its primary holy book?
  
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  We Need a Video like this one

  by TerryWalstrom in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is very easy to watch and completely informative.. does anybody have the talent to put one together regarding watchtowerism?.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vkt4hrbtuk.

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  So.....I would love to help with something like this.  There are a couple reasons this video works.

  1)  Its concise.  Its built for someone who doesn't know the jargon and much about Mormons, to understand the basics.

  2)  Its accurate.  It isn't full of subjective opinion.  Factual for the most part, although as Island man mentioned, its probably being called lies from members because it leaves out what they feel would be key details.

  
  

  So A JW video like this to be effective would probably need to focus more ont he general message, and doctrine.  Policy related to UN hypocricy, or even the molestation cases, in my opinion would muddy the water.

  
  

  the JW videos points could be...

  ...only JW's (.01% of the world), will live in paradise.  Paradise?  Yes where everyone lives forever after 144K people go to heaven to rule them.  Like a new Garden on Eden, except after 100 years Satan gets to try to trick people again for one last test.

  Blood transfusions (large parts of blood are refused, while all the other parts are ok.  Basically ham, cheese, lettuce and mayo are cool.....but the sandwich is forbidden).  We even would allow ourselves or our children to die if this was one of the only ways to save them.

  Holidays.  If you celebrate christmas you are disfellowshipped.

  Disfellowshipped?  A three man private tribunal decides if you are guilty and/or repentant regarding a variety of "sins", and if they find you guilty you are communally shunned by everyone including your family.  Unless you are a minor and live at home.

  These items playfully rendered would be ACCURATE, and concise.....probably filling about 4 minutes. 

  
  

  I say use the same method.  JW's are great people, but what if they came to your door and told you what they really believed straight away. 

  
  

  
  
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  Will my inactive JW bring our children up as a witness?

  by stevepill in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have been with an in active jw for 6 years, she now wants to marry and have a child, will she want to bring a child up as a witness, she says not but any experiences?

  will she start go back once we are married?

  (i'm a non jw)

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  Steve,

  
   I think I echo the sentiments of some here.  Don't be too "against" her former faith....because you may end up pushing her to it.  At the same time, you really need to learn about the religion.  It is VERY likely that especially after having a child, at the time parents seem to think about what direction they want their family to go and so forth, that she will consider going back. 

  Are her family active JW's?

  If you love her you love her.  If she loves you, then you both should be able to have an adult honest conversation about this. 

  
  
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  Elders refused to help police investigation into the rape of a teenage girl

  by Gadget in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  church leaders refused to co-operate with a police investigation into a sex attack by one of their congregation on a teenage girl.. jehovahs witness paul atkin has now been jailed for five years after he admitted sexual activity with a 15-year-old.. a court heard the south shields based branch of the church carried out their own investigation after the allegation came to light and atkin was booted out.. but when police came knocking, church officials refused to help what was then a rape allegation, on the grounds of confidentiality.. prosecutor deborah smith told newcastle crown court: it would appear there was some form of investigation by the church.. we know the defendant was disfellowshipped as a consequence of that investigation but there has been no disclosure of any minutes of meetings with the defendant and the elders have refused to provide statements to the police, despite the fact the defendant is no longer a member of their congregation, on the grounds of confidentiality.. atkin, of east moffat street, south shields, was initially accused of rape but the charge was dropped when he admitted sexual activity with a child.. the court heard his victim was 15-and-a-half when he had sex with her.. miss smith said: she did not wish to have sexual intercourse with him.. the crown accept, having discussed matters with her, the defendant may reasonably have believed that she did.. she did not fight back or shout out at the time of the incident.. the court heard the woman is still on anti-depressants and says her self confidence has been shattered by the ordeal.. in a statement read to the court, the victim, who is now an adult, said: this has had a major effect on me and i cannot trust men.. i bottled everything up and as a teenager i turned to drink and drugs.. i hope he gets sent to prison and gets what he deserves.. judge simon hickey jailed atkin for five years and said he must sign the sex offenders register for life and abide by the terms of a sexual offences prevention order for five years.. the judge told him: this has had a huge effect upon this young lady.. gavin doig, defending, said atkin has a good, supportive family and partner and said his family describe him as a hard working man with a job who will face devastating consequences if sent to jail.. he added that it was atkin himself who had brought the matter to the attention of police.. mr doig told the court: this defendant made a very bad mistake a number of years ago.

  he has not made any further mistakes.. he is extremely sorry he committed this offence knowing, as he did, the complainant was under age.. http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/south-shields-jehovahs-witness-jailed-8567927.

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  I can't come here and read this crap while I'm at work.  It makes me too angry. 

  Maybe most frustrating, is that NONE of the rank and file ever see the misquotes, the bad decisions, the noncooperation with police, the intellectual dishonesty......because you have to be willing to look at things that are not sanctioned by JW's.  Argh!